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JamHub Dilemma!!

Postby RobB » Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:16 pm

Hi all.

The JamHub sounds like an absolutely fabulous rehearsal tool and a possible live monitoring solution but....................here's my dilemma. I play guitar in a 5 piece covers band and the line up is: Drums - Roland TD 6, Guitar - Line 6 Vetta II, Bass - Boss ME-20B, Keyboards x3 - V-Synth / Fanthom / Korg and a main vocalist. To complicate it even more, drums and guitar do backing vocals. So in total we have 6 instruments and 3 vocals. :?

How can we achieve the best from JamHub? The fact the greenroom and tourbus have 7 inputs means that drums/vox and guitar/vox would use 1 channel for both (instrument and vocal) but my concern is that you cannot independently control the volume of instrument and vocal, just both together. Is it possible to daisy chain JamHubs? Maybe a bedroom for the 3 keyboards, that mixed into one greenroom/tourbus channel, that then leaves 6 more channels so all the vocals can have a separate channel as well as the remaining instruments?

I look forward to any thoughts and suggestions.

Cheers,

Rob
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Re: JamHub Dilemma!!

Postby SladeGT40 » Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:56 am

With any of the models the input for the XLR and the 1/4" are adjustable separately. Ideally you just want to put it as loud as it goes without turning yellow or red. However, you might be able to find a happy medium putting the vocals through an inexpensive mixer with 4 channels or so and premixing those (since most people don't need individual vocal adjustment, they simply want more or less singing) and run that into a single input.


Hope this helps.
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Re: JamHub Dilemma!!

Postby Chuck-at-JamHub » Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:01 am

Welcome, Rob!

Slade offers a good suggestion (thanks, Slade!), but I want you to consider that my bandmates initially thought the lack of independent voice/instrument control would be a problem. To the contrary, what we've found at our rehearsals is that once we got it all dialed in, it's been very much a 'set it and forget it' experience. Everyone's hearing the mix that they want to hear and we're spending all of our time playing, not tweaking.

You could use another JamHub (or conventional mixer) to submix the vocals, but as Slade mentioned, from the JamHub where the headphones are connected, you'll only be able to independently adjust the whole submix, not the individual voices. You'll also want to be careful not to mistakenly plug any output back into itself, which could create a nasty feedback loop that would be most unpleasant in the headphones :shock:

Another angle to consider is that with six players and seven sections, you could give the most important (or problematic) singer two sections on the Jamhub - one for their instrument and another for their voice.

I hope you decide to give the JamHub a try. That's really the only way for you to know for sure if it'll improve your band's rehearsal experience. We're confident that it would ;)

All the best,
Chuck Nemitz
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Re: JamHub Dilemma!!

Postby RobB » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:08 am

Thanks for your thoughts Slade & Chuck.

The suggestion of an inexpensive 4 channel mixer makes perfect sense and could be the answer. Just now need to work out if it can be adapted for us in the live monitoring area.

Thanks again folks, I'll let you know any decisions as and when.

Cheers, Rob.
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Re: JamHub Dilemma!!

Postby Madmax25 » Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:39 am

For what it's worth, I would rather use the inexpensive mixer to do a main keyboards mix - since it's most likely that you wouldn't want a different volume setting for each type of keyboard. Then you would have a section for every player/singer plus two extra channels for the two backing vocals. The thing is, even though people in general don't want individual voice settings, the people who actually do the singing often want a little "more me" of their own vocals - especially if you have a dominant lead singer :D

Just my two cents :)
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